Episode 329
Episode 329: The Great Debate: College as a Pathway to Success
The primary focus of this podcast episode revolves around the pressing question of whether the traditional college education is becoming obsolete as a necessary step for future success. We delve into the various factors contributing to this phenomenon, including the escalating costs of tuition and the changing perceptions of vocational training versus academic degrees. As we engage in a candid discussion, we share personal anecdotes that highlight the diverse pathways individuals have taken toward achieving their professional goals, often without the conventional college experience. Furthermore, we contemplate the implications of these shifts—considering whether the de-emphasis on college could ultimately benefit or detract from society's future. Ultimately, we advocate for a broader understanding of education, emphasizing that learning can occur in myriad forms beyond the confines of a college classroom.
Takeaways:
- The podcast discusses the evolving perception of college education and its relevance to future success.
- Many individuals question whether college is the best path to achieving success in modern society.
- The speakers share personal experiences related to college and the societal pressures surrounding higher education.
- A significant point raised is the financial burden associated with college tuition and student debt.
- The conversation emphasizes the importance of trade skills and vocational training as valid alternatives to traditional college degrees.
- The speakers express concern about the current educational system and its ability to prepare students for real-world challenges.
Transcript
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Speaker B:This week on the five minute warning.
Speaker B:When you attach someone's future success to going to this college or going to college in general, I don't know if that's the best idea.
Speaker B:The show that gives you everything and nothing at all, that's everywhere you don't want to be.
Speaker B:It's Reuben, Mo B.
Speaker B:And on the ones and twos, AG.
Speaker A:The five minute warning.
Speaker A:Welcome to a brand new episode of five minute one.
Speaker A:Of course, always.
Speaker A:Is your man Reuben in the house tonight to deliver what he comes to deliver when he decides to deliver it, and always with me is my cousin.
Speaker B:AG what's happening, y'?
Speaker A:All?
Speaker B:How you doing?
Speaker A:Ah, man, things beautiful things great.
Speaker A:And things are looking sideways, but we'll get into that a little bit.
Speaker A:That face, I love it.
Speaker A:All right, let's go ahead and get to the topic of the day.
Speaker A:So the question basically is really simple.
Speaker A:Is college becoming phased out as a next step of education?
Speaker A:Because, you know, at least back in our day, and I say our day like it was like, you know, 100 years ago.
Speaker A:Our day is like 30 years ago.
Speaker A:Real talk, maybe a little bit more.
Speaker A:And, hey, man, you finished high school?
Speaker A:Where you going to college?
Speaker A:Where you going to college?
Speaker A:You know, that's the question, everybody.
Speaker A:Hey, I want to go here.
Speaker A:I want to go here.
Speaker A:You know, I get my grades in high school, so I can do this and go there.
Speaker A:And when it's all said and done for about 80% of the people who go to college, the first thing, first thing I want to do is get away from home and party.
Speaker A:The other 20% actually go learn some shit.
Speaker A:You know, I. I could say that I was part of that 80%.
Speaker A:And, you know, hey, what I'm not gonna do is sit here and lie to nobody, man.
Speaker A:I flunked out, Flunked out, went back, flunked out.
Speaker A:Well, I didn't flunk out the second time, but it was like you know what?
Speaker A:Maybe you just not ready for this shit.
Speaker A:And I went and did some other shit then at the age of 30, went back to college, got my degree, and happy, happy, joy, joy.
Speaker A:However, you know, that question is highly pertinent because a lot of kids today, man, ain't about that colle for a couple of different reasons.
Speaker A:You know what?
Speaker A:You know, there's a whole bunch of AI out here now.
Speaker A:Oh, I'm learning, or I'm gonna gamble or whatever.
Speaker A:You know, Tuition, man, is expensive.
Speaker A:It's expensive to hell to go to college.
Speaker A:Now, even if I put myself through college, I don't know if I could necessarily afford that, you know, but hey, when kids go to school, a whole bunch of kids go and come back with debt, and nobody likes debt, you know.
Speaker A:You know, college ain't for me, you know, And I don't know if that's because our kids are inherently, you know.
Speaker A:I was about to say inherently stupider, but I don't know if that's necessarily the case.
Speaker A:Maybe they just don't school land thing for them.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:I ain't got no kids.
Speaker A:You know, we got somebody who got kids, so I'm pretty sure that person will talk about that.
Speaker A:What's going on, Moby?
Speaker C:Not much, man.
Speaker A:What's going on?
Speaker A:Good, good.
Speaker A:Also, you know, just a whole bunch of institutional closures.
Speaker A:You know, there are a lot of, like, universities and college actually closing down.
Speaker A:You know, every once in a while, it's a small college or a university, and they closed down.
Speaker A:And, you know, why go to college?
Speaker A:I'm just gonna close down.
Speaker A:Did my degree mean anything?
Speaker A:I paid all this damn money, and now the school I went to, you know, is like, South Ham.
Speaker A:South Harmon Institute of Technology, you know, what we doing?
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:So, yeah, like, so that's the question of the day 1.
Speaker A:Is college being phased out as the next step of education?
Speaker A:But beside that, I do want to pose a second, you know, will that benefit the future or will it deconstruct the future?
Speaker A:Because we have.
Speaker A: ar movie that was made in the: Speaker A:I'm sorry.
Speaker B:Idiocracy.
Speaker A:Yes, idiocracy.
Speaker A:Hey, let's warn it grass with.
Speaker A:With Gatorade because it has nutrients like.
Speaker A:Like what we talking about.
Speaker A:So I posed that question to y' all gentlemen today, you know, and I'm.
Speaker A:I'm Start with.
Speaker A:I'm gonna start with ag, Then I want to go to the one who actually has kids.
Speaker A:And, you know, I'm pretty sure college is being talked about soon in that household, so.
Speaker A:But ag, what's your thoughts on it, man?
Speaker B:Well, actually, I don't think.
Speaker B:I don't necessarily think college is ever going way.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It's a huge racket for the most part.
Speaker B:Not all of it, but for the most part, there's a lot of shame in not going, especially when you're of.
Speaker B:Of age or you're about to breach that age where you're like 16, 17 years old.
Speaker B:You're.
Speaker B:No one's ever going to talk to you about.
Speaker B:Hey, you ever consider trades?
Speaker B:If you're super smart, if you're super smart, generally they want you to go to college.
Speaker B:Even if you are good at plumbing.
Speaker B:There's a, there's, like I said before, the, the biggest thing for me is there's a lot of shame in not going.
Speaker B:Kind of frowned upon the good part of that.
Speaker B:I feel like if you could get rid of the shame part and have people go to college that, you know, you need an education that's, you know, two, four, six years to attain and do a particular job, and then that would make it a lot better if college wasn't a racket.
Speaker B:Cause college used to be free up until the 70s.
Speaker B:In the 70s, up until like mid-70s, college was free.
Speaker B:Reagan changed all that, so.
Speaker B:Thanks, Ron.
Speaker A:Economics, baby.
Speaker B:Well, when I was before, when he was governor, he wasn't even president then.
Speaker B:So it's just like, I just feel like if a kid is mechanically inclined and they went to learn a certain trade, because again, most tradesmen, or I should say tradespeople in four years are going to make more than any college graduate's ever going to make per year.
Speaker B:If you're a plumber, you're loaded, by and large, especially if you get to the point where you own your own firm.
Speaker B:Man, those guys make a lot of cash.
Speaker B:But I don't think that's what women want to take home to their, to their parents either.
Speaker B:They don't grow up saying, I want to, I want them.
Speaker B:Unless your dad was a plumber, you're not going to grow up and say, hey, I want to marry a plumber.
Speaker B:That's not what you're thinking.
Speaker A:My boyfriend lays pipe for a living.
Speaker B:Well, that too.
Speaker B:Just saying.
Speaker B:He lays all the pipe.
Speaker B:So like I said, man, it's just, I just think if you're gonna go to school for something that's specialized, then, okay, like, you know, if you're, you want to be a teacher, you'll be a social worker, you'll be an engineer, you'll be a doctor, whatever it is.
Speaker B:But there are a lot of things that you can go to college for that, I don't know, require college.
Speaker B:Because it's not like when you go to college for something and you can learn it in two years, you're, you're going to pay reduced amount, you're going to pay the same 15, 20, 25, 30 grand a year or semester where you go to get this done.
Speaker B:Even TCC or I shouldn't say that for all the listening audience.
Speaker B:Even if you go to a community college.
Speaker B:Community college is not cheap anymore.
Speaker B:I mean, relatively speaking it is.
Speaker B:But like, if you back up and look at it just for what it is, it's kind of, you know, it's kind of a bear to pay for.
Speaker B:It's not like, you know, I don't know, man, like I said when my dad was coming up, you could get a summer job and pay for a year of college or it was free.
Speaker B:Those days are over.
Speaker B:College is a racket for so many reasons.
Speaker B:There's a lot of shame in not going.
Speaker B:I think that's a major driver in college attendance because like I said, man, some people don't need to be there, not for what they want to do.
Speaker B:And then some people are very good at certain things that they could go to a trade school to get done and do very well in life.
Speaker B:Because at the end of the day, we all want, we want as many people to be as productive as possible for this country in the world.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker B:That's, that's the goal.
Speaker B:Just because you don't go to college doesn't mean you're not productive.
Speaker B:It just doesn't mean that.
Speaker B:However, it kind of does.
Speaker B:It kind of does because I'm less than.
Speaker B:Because I didn't graduate.
Speaker B:I mean, you could say I wasn't, but a lot of people would argue that I was.
Speaker B:That's a bad thing.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:But it doesn't make me any less productive.
Speaker B:I believe that can be argued in a big, big way.
Speaker B:But yeah, so that's my big thing is that's my answer to your question, which is I think college as it, as it is now is a money making machine.
Speaker B:I think the major driver in it is shame or fear of not succeeding or feeling or being viewed as a success.
Speaker B:And I believe it could be better if people could stop wasting time and go Right.
Speaker B:To what they want to do, if they know what they want to do.
Speaker B:Like I said, if you are mechanically inclined or you're scientific inclined, you already know where to go.
Speaker B:Both people are going to be extremely productive.
Speaker B:The scientists can figure out what the trades person needs and the tradesperson can fix what's broken with the scientist.
Speaker B:They all work together.
Speaker B:So that's kind of my answer.
Speaker A:Okay, well, second part of the answer.
Speaker A:Do you feel like using your answer as the, the possible future, do you feel like that will benefit our future or do you think it would decont.
Speaker A:Construct our future, as it were?
Speaker B:Well, that's why I was answering.
Speaker B:Because if you have people that are not wasting time and they go into what they, you know, want to do or have ability to do, and they can just live their lives and be productive.
Speaker B:Again, the goal, based on my opinion and what I've seen in my own life, it's like the goal is to make productive people.
Speaker A:Correct.
Speaker B:Plumbers.
Speaker B:People that are inclined to be plumbers or electricians or whatever, they don't need to be in college, they need to be in a trade school.
Speaker B:And the four years they spend messing around in college because they're not really into it, they've wasted time or going to college because a college really can't teach you plumbing unless that college is particularly good at putting out plumbers, which is by and large, I don't think that's the case.
Speaker B:So it's just like this person and that person could stop wasting time.
Speaker B:I'm not saying college is bad because if you want to be an engineer, you need people to teach you that.
Speaker B:And I've been through that personally.
Speaker B:You need people that are in the know.
Speaker B:But sometimes people that are in the know for certain things aren't, don't exist in college.
Speaker B:They just don't.
Speaker B:So I feel like you, you waste less time.
Speaker B:You put people in the world without that shame, without that debt, because there's a crillion dollars in student debt that's never going to be paid.
Speaker C:A who?
Speaker B:A crillion.
Speaker B:A crazy.
Speaker B:Yes, that's a real number in my argument.
Speaker B:That's a real number.
Speaker B:It's a lot of money and a lot of that people have degrees they're not even using that they'll never be able to use unless they start company or start some sort of business.
Speaker B:And it's like, I don't know, man, just.
Speaker B:I think it'd be better for the country, in the world if people could go into their, their thing without any shame and without Somebody telling them you're gonna fail in life if you don't get that four year degree and just do you.
Speaker B:And the only reason you can fail is because you didn't, you didn't do what you needed to do.
Speaker B:Not because you didn't go through this institution, the institution, college and the, that is created in an institution.
Speaker B:So that's kind of the answer.
Speaker B:That's what I was trying to say is I already answered the question.
Speaker B:I think you'd be better off for people in general to be able to do what they do and be able to be trained in that and to be able to get into the world faster and be more effective right away.
Speaker A:So def.
Speaker A:I mean, I.
Speaker A:Look, you know what, what it sounds like you're saying is get rid of that general studies bullshit that takes you two years to go through, to let you.
Speaker A:That you already went through high school and you know how to read and write and shit and then just go straight into the, to the degree that you're looking for.
Speaker B:Oh, well, yeah, I mean, in many ways, yes.
Speaker B:If you're going to be remedial, be remedial going towards where you're going.
Speaker B:Like if you want to make a pipe run, you know, just go straight to that and understand what it takes to make that, and make that measurement and make that weld and make that coupling or whatever it is and keep it moving.
Speaker B:Do you really need to know math?
Speaker B:That has nothing to do with you.
Speaker B:No, you don't, but they don't teach you that in high school.
Speaker B:It's one of the things that Hillary Clinton said that I really agree with.
Speaker B:This is like the shame of going to college was like, we ain't got no plumbers out here.
Speaker B:And I'm not saying, I'm not saying trades people are all that the bag of Funyuns.
Speaker B:What I'm saying is when you attach someone's future success to going to this college or going to college in general, I don't know if that's the best idea because honestly, once you get like 25, 30, 35 years old, you're already succeeding probably, hopefully, you know, and a lot of these people don't go to school, but if we didn't have them, how productive would this country be?
Speaker B:I mean, we have a cousin that's, you know, H vac, like straight up and down.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Makes a grand living.
Speaker B:Did he go to college for that?
Speaker B:No, but I've been to his house.
Speaker B:He paying the bill.
Speaker B:And like I said, man, it's just.
Speaker B:And those are the things that I see, like, my mom didn't go to college.
Speaker B:I mean, really, she really wanted me to go because she felt like I'd have a easier time in life.
Speaker B:I don't know if I agree with that, but she made.
Speaker B:She made a living for herself and etched out a life and, you know, etched out a life that was, to me, very successful.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I would say that my dad's even lesser than her because he didn't go to.
Speaker B:He.
Speaker B:He.
Speaker B:Man, he laid bricks.
Speaker B:He worked at the railroad.
Speaker B:He did whatever.
Speaker B:And, like, he ain't hurting, bro.
Speaker B:He's living his best life.
Speaker B:He did it twice.
Speaker B:He did it twice.
Speaker A:Shout out to Uncle Ben, most definitely.
Speaker B:And so, like, and especially when you juxtapose him to his siblings, bro.
Speaker B:Still contest.
Speaker B:It's no contest.
Speaker B:And he's the only one of the three of his siblings that did not go.
Speaker B:He went to Vietnam.
Speaker B:He came back Brick Mason, took classes at NSU to do that, and then he got on the railroad.
Speaker B:He could do both.
Speaker B:So when people ask me about that, I'm like.
Speaker B:And even with my parents, when they drove it in me and I was like, I was looking at them side eye because it's like they're.
Speaker B:They're being accidentally hypocritical.
Speaker B:It's like y' all are killing it out here, and you're asking me to go, what are you doing?
Speaker B:But again, like I said, man, it's not for everybody.
Speaker B:And I just wish there were more avenues without shame and without fear that people could travel to be successful, especially people that have, you know, aptitude in a certain area and not have all that debt.
Speaker B:That's the other thing, man.
Speaker B:I mean, college ain't got no business costing all this money.
Speaker B:But at the same time, I don't own a college.
Speaker B:So I'm gonna just be quiet.
Speaker B:I'm gonna mind my business.
Speaker B:But that is my opinion of the situation as I look at it.
Speaker B:So that's my answer.
Speaker A:Awesome.
Speaker A:Nah, Completely agree.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I mean, same here, man.
Speaker A:My folks didn't go to college.
Speaker A:Extremely successful, and they did.
Speaker A:Yeah, they did well for themselves.
Speaker B:I mean, they got three kids that are super productive.
Speaker B:They have a house.
Speaker B:They have the American dream.
Speaker B:I don't understand what's not successful about that.
Speaker B:Like, when Tracy Morgan said what he said about teachers, I'm like, whoa, back up, bro.
Speaker B:Back up.
Speaker B:You're a funny guy.
Speaker B:But that was the dumbest thing you've ever said, talking about teachers.
Speaker B:He said he doesn't like his kids.
Speaker B:I'm Paraphrasing.
Speaker B:Now, basically, he was saying teachers will always have a ceiling, and they will never go above that ceiling.
Speaker B:And because of that, he doesn't like his kids exposed to it because he wants his kids to have, you know, in his words, the sky be the limit.
Speaker B:So when he sees certain jobs, he wants his kids to see past those because he sees the.
Speaker B:Basically, it's a soft way of saying, if you're a teacher, you're a failure.
Speaker B:Or at least that's the way I felt about it.
Speaker B:I'm not even a teacher.
Speaker B:I'm like, bro, are you for real right now?
Speaker B:But yes, he said it many times, and he doubled down on it.
Speaker B:And so I'm like, that's the kind of shame I'm talking.
Speaker B:Talking about.
Speaker B:It's like, yeah, Wait, wait.
Speaker B:Man, there are so many ways to skin a cat in the world.
Speaker B:Not just the United States, but in the world.
Speaker B:There are so many ways to skin a cat.
Speaker B:I'm looking at two other guys here that are very successful.
Speaker B:Yes, y' all went to college, but I guarantee you, you'd have been as successful without it if you're doing what you want to do and you're doing it well.
Speaker B:Now, there is accountability in this statement.
Speaker B:You have to actually go to work and you got to grind.
Speaker B:You mean to tell me you had to go to college to figure out how to grind?
Speaker B:I think I know your parents for sure.
Speaker B:And what you say, what Mo says about his mom, Come on, bruh.
Speaker B:No, you can't tell me that college was required for y' all to be here.
Speaker B:And that's kind of my beef with this whole college thing.
Speaker B:I'm not saying that it should go away because there are things that you want to learn that require someone of a particular knowledge to teach you, but all of those things don't require four year university unless that university wants to take it on.
Speaker B:I don't ever see Duke University going, hey, all the Masons out there, come to our college and we can teach you how to be a bricklayer.
Speaker B:They too bougie for that.
Speaker B:And a lot of colleges are too bougie to teach people other than your regular student how to get down.
Speaker B:This program is gonna cost you.
Speaker B:Not very much.
Speaker B:Relatively speaking.
Speaker B:You'll be able to be an electrician in two years.
Speaker B:We'll make sure that you get on to be a journeyman.
Speaker B:I mean, an apprentice, and then get your journeyman's license.
Speaker B:If you.
Speaker B:This is what we're giving you for what you're giving us.
Speaker B:And you're a student at Ohio State University just like the rest of them.
Speaker B:That is never going to happen.
Speaker B:OSU is bougie as the rest of them.
Speaker B:They ain't trying to do all that.
Speaker B:No, no.
Speaker B:So that's.
Speaker B:That's always been kind of my gripe.
Speaker B:And again, fear and shame, that's a huge component.
Speaker B:When you're 17, 18 years old, it's kind of a big thing.
Speaker B:I mean, you're about to close one chapter and go into the next, that's always anxious.
Speaker B:And once people are telling you this stuff, it's like you think that's the only path because you're not on the other side of it.
Speaker B:So you don't really know.
Speaker A:So that's all Coco Mo beef.
Speaker A:What's your thoughts?
Speaker C:I don't know, man.
Speaker C:I got.
Speaker C:I got a lot of thoughts about college, to be honest.
Speaker C:College is a social construct that actually works against capitalism, which is a weird thing, because now I understand why the social construct was put in place.
Speaker C:I mean, even today, you can talk to people in, like, my mom or my grandma's generation, and they mark, if you went to college as.
Speaker C:Are you an educated, smart person when the richest people.
Speaker C:Capitalism, most of the richest people in this country did not graduate from college.
Speaker C:So it's.
Speaker C:It's a social construct that actually works against capitalism.
Speaker C:All the jobs that the colleges used to create for people, teachers, nurses, a lot of those jobs are now the bottom of the pay scale.
Speaker C:So it actually works against capitalism.
Speaker C:So then, like, hey, go rack up hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt to make a job that puts you at the bottom of working class financially, completely works against capitalism.
Speaker C:And, you know, I read in a book, they said the next wave of millionaires are all plumbers and electricians, because as you said, we had a whole generation of people who were just like, go to college.
Speaker C:Go to college.
Speaker C:So we stopped having people with trade skills.
Speaker C:A lot of people I graduated from high school went either, because seven went straight to the shipyard.
Speaker C:And I promise you, everybody that went straight to the shipyard straight from high school, they all make more money than me.
Speaker C:All of them?
Speaker C:All of them, bar none.
Speaker C:Are they any less intelligent than me?
Speaker C:No.
Speaker C:I would honestly say they just got smarter and went straight to the money.
Speaker C:Now, the idea that we have devalued teachers as such, where it's like we have a comedian who's like, I don't like my kids being around teachers because it gives them a seal.
Speaker C:Once again, social construct working against capitalism because they see teachers as you're not making tons of money, you're not, you're not famous, you're not rich.
Speaker C:Because of course our, our society values fame over success.
Speaker C:Or they confuse the two and think if you are famous, you are successful.
Speaker C:I guarantee I can go to any of my daughter's classes right now and most of the kids will say they want to be content.
Speaker C:Creat or some type of media star wasn't the same when we were in school.
Speaker C:We had people who had actual career aspirations of what they wanted to do.
Speaker C:Of course you had the stereotypical ones like, yeah, I want to be a singer, I want to be a rapper, I want to be an athlete.
Speaker C:But after that there usually was a baseline of things where people were like, hey man, that's not a bad gig.
Speaker C:Like, I went to school with a lot of young ladies that was like, yo man, I want to be a teacher.
Speaker C:I always had a high value of teachers.
Speaker C:My grandma was a teacher.
Speaker C:I have a whole bunch of women in my family that are teachers, teachers, nurses, and a lot of men in my family were military.
Speaker C:But like AG said, there's a stigma like now if you didn't go to college, you're not educated.
Speaker C:Where I could literally say, yeah, but it probably means you, if you did the grind thing and actually got to a skill trade and went straight in the workplace, probably means you made it smarter to decision financially because you didn't accrue any debt and you got straight to your money making skills instead of spending the two or three years that a lot of people who go to college and get a degree in something that they never use, like people getting history degrees.
Speaker C:What are you doing?
Speaker C:What do you, what are you doing?
Speaker C:I know, I know a friend of mine who originally she went to school and she was like a history major and she was like, I want to work in a museum.
Speaker C:Like when I first met her, that was her thing.
Speaker C:I want to work in a museum.
Speaker C:Then she ended up going back to school and getting a degree in something completely unrelated.
Speaker C:Now she's a counselor.
Speaker C:But it's like, yo, she still wanted to be a history person.
Speaker C:She still wants to work in a museum.
Speaker C:But she got to the end of the road and was like, what can I do?
Speaker C:Work wise with this.
Speaker C:So once again, the social construct, working against capitalism.
Speaker C:She was like, I better go find something that I, I can make some money with and do.
Speaker C:And it just so happened she found purpose in it as well.
Speaker C:Great.
Speaker C:But like, I bet if you had a now not knowing her, she wouldn't say that.
Speaker C:But I mean, a lot of people in that same avenue be like, man, I wish I would have got straight to this first.
Speaker C:I wish I would have skipped all the B.S.
Speaker C:As you said, the general studies B.S.
Speaker C:And just went straight to what I was going to end up doing.
Speaker C:I mean, I, I went to school for something I haven't used.
Speaker C:I got one or two semesters away from graduating in college, and I was just like, man, I ain't gonna make no money doing this unless I go to school for another two to four years.
Speaker C:Why am I doing this?
Speaker C:And now I have, I had a degree that I didn't do nothing with.
Speaker C:Nothing, not a damn thing.
Speaker C:I, I can Jedi mind trick and say I'm using some skills I might have acquired in that time, but I really need to put down on my resume to do what I do.
Speaker C:And I think if we could remove the stigma of college means educated.
Speaker C:Because honestly, at this point in time, college is just a hustle.
Speaker C:And I don't mean people don't benefit from college, but the way colleges have been constructed now based on just the degrees in majors that they have right now, you've got people majoring in things where it's like, realistically, you will never be able to get a job doing this.
Speaker C:You got people getting, getting degrees and things where there's like four people in the country that do that job and you're going to have a whole major for it.
Speaker C:So it's a hustle.
Speaker C:Now, I'm not saying college doesn't have value because there's a lot.
Speaker C:Just like AG said, there's a lot of professions that you do that.
Speaker C:Absolutely.
Speaker C:Like, I don't want my daughter, a doctor, not to have gone to school.
Speaker C:I don't necessarily want a lawyer, not to go to school.
Speaker C:But I mean, how many switcher programs do colleges have now for teachers where it's like, hey, if you got a degree in anything, give us like a year to get certified and you can be a teacher once again, that it's, it's another hustle.
Speaker C:There's like, hey, man, a lot of people got degrees that they ain't using.
Speaker C:They need jobs.
Speaker C:How can we flip this and get some more money?
Speaker C:Hey, you learn something.
Speaker C:So be a teacher.
Speaker C:And don't get me wrong, we have a teacher shortage.
Speaker C:So that's a very important thing.
Speaker C:I'm not, I'm not downplaying that.
Speaker C:But once again, man, we, we've, we've created a social construct that completely works against the idea of capitalism that we taught.
Speaker C:And we Yell out what makes America so great because of our capitalism.
Speaker C:I'm like, yeah, it also is why we are the lowest in, like, intellect now, because we're all trying to get to the.
Speaker C:And money don't necessarily mean you had to do anything successful anymore, just means you had to find a way to get to the money.
Speaker C:I mean, there's.
Speaker C:There's a lot of YouTubers and Twitch streamers and content creators that.
Speaker C:I mean, they didn't even need their high school degree.
Speaker C:All they need to do is, hey, how can I put a camera in front of me and do something that interests people to view me?
Speaker C:I love that.
Speaker C:I'm not gonna.
Speaker C:I'm not even gonna downplay them and say they're stupid or anything, but basically their whole thing is like, how can I get as many people to click my video as possible?
Speaker C:That's their success.
Speaker C:That's how they make their money.
Speaker C:And, hey, I respect the hustle.
Speaker C:If you can find a way to hustle it.
Speaker C:But I don't have to then call you successful, because I still don't mark what some of these people do as, like, success, because I don't necessarily view success in a capitalistic frame, but I realize that makes me a minority in this country, and I'm cool with that.
Speaker C:I am perfectly okay with that.
Speaker C:But, yeah, I mean, moving forward, we're already seeing issues.
Speaker C:I mean, first of all, AI is taking.
Speaker C:Is already proactively eliminating some of these things that people went to school for.
Speaker C:And just like AJ Said, like, you know, we don't have enough of plumbers, electricians, H vac people, mechanics.
Speaker C:We don't have enough of those.
Speaker C:And all the people who are doing that successfully, doing pretty well for themselves.
Speaker C:And just like you said, you know, people didn't want to necessarily say I was dating a plumber, but you know what?
Speaker C:Now they don't say that.
Speaker C:They say I'm dating a business owner.
Speaker C:Because, yeah, if you.
Speaker C:If you do it right, you're a business owner now.
Speaker A:They pay for a living, and that's what I do.
Speaker C:You own a business?
Speaker C:Pipeline.
Speaker C:Business is good, apparently.
Speaker A:All the way around, baby.
Speaker A:All the way around.
Speaker B:Because pipe players lay pipe just saying.
Speaker A:All day, all day, all day.
Speaker A:Cool.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:That's good.
Speaker A:That's mlb.
Speaker A:Got anything else?
Speaker C:Yeah, I mean.
Speaker C:I mean, yeah, because, I mean, I'm in an interesting part.
Speaker C:You know, I got two teenagers in high school, and, you know, that college conversation comes up and people like, hey, what?
Speaker C:And honestly, man, I could kind of care less if they want to go to college.
Speaker C:It's like, do you want to do something?
Speaker C:All right, have you figured out what you want to do now?
Speaker C:Let's go do that.
Speaker C:If college is going to help you get to what you're trying to do, cool.
Speaker C:Or if you're, if you're really just clueless as to what you want to do, I can acknowledge that college can't expose you to a whole bunch of different things and maybe help you find a path.
Speaker C:But man, that is a very expensive, yeah, that's a very expensive fishing expedition.
Speaker C:Like, come on, man.
Speaker A:Like, I mean, I know.
Speaker C:Now, granted, if it works for you, it works for you, man.
Speaker C:I am not, I am not going to argue with anyone path to their form of success, but if my kid looks at me one day and says, you have no desire to go to college, I want to do this, this and this.
Speaker C:All right, how are we going to make that happen?
Speaker C:Are you moving forward?
Speaker C:Are you going to be a freeloading bum?
Speaker C:When are you leaving my house?
Speaker B:You just want to make sure I.
Speaker A:Got a plan, right?
Speaker B:Different podcast, sir.
Speaker B:When are you leaving my house?
Speaker A:I mean, and you're right, there are a whole bunch of people who have still never left their house.
Speaker A:I can wait to get back.
Speaker C:I, I, I do not necessarily want to phrase things like my mom did, which was like, hey, you got to get up out of here.
Speaker C:But I also don't want them to feel so comfortable or they feel like this place is always going to be their home.
Speaker C:Like, nah, baby, like you, you got to go find yourself a place to stay.
Speaker A:Yeah, Yeah.
Speaker A:I mean, I hate that because after.
Speaker C:A while, if you're not going to school and you're not working, what you do.
Speaker C:All I can do is do what white people do after every black tragedy.
Speaker C:Give you thoughts and prayers, baby.
Speaker C:That's all I can give you, thoughts and prayers.
Speaker A:But you got to get about it, baby.
Speaker A:Cheese and peace.
Speaker C:Oh, man.
Speaker A:Nice.
Speaker A:I mean, so, like, for me, it was, it was very simple.
Speaker A:It was a very simple conversation.
Speaker A:It was college, military.
Speaker A:My dad's military.
Speaker A:No, I wanted nothing to do with military.
Speaker A:So I went college, you know, flunked out the first year.
Speaker A:That was the last time my parents paid for college.
Speaker A:All right, we're learning lessons early.
Speaker A:Let's go.
Speaker A:Went to community college, three semesters.
Speaker A:Decided to go back, you know, one more year.
Speaker A:Realize, you know what, maybe I'm just not ready.
Speaker A:I'm not there and I wasn't.
Speaker A:So got a, got a full time job, you know, that's what I did got a job.
Speaker A:It was cool for a while.
Speaker A:Then I got an opportunity.
Speaker A:I was like, you know what?
Speaker A:I think I want to, to do this.
Speaker A:Awesome.
Speaker A:And I got stuck with the, well, in order to take this job, you have to have a college degree.
Speaker B:Well, is that what you said?
Speaker A:Literally?
Speaker A:I mean, that's what it was, man.
Speaker A:It was like I wanted to do that.
Speaker A:I want to do a. I know I could do a.
Speaker A:But my resumes need to say college degree.
Speaker A:And back then that was a little different.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:There are a lot of jobs back then, you know, know, if you want any type of leadership ability, leadership job or whatever, you gotta have a college degree.
Speaker A:Well, and at the age of 30, which has been, you know, highly documented multiple times, I took my fat ass back to college.
Speaker A:It was a good time.
Speaker A:I met my boy Moby there, you know.
Speaker A:So for me, I decided that if I'm gonna do this, I'm jumping all in the water, I mean, holding my nose.
Speaker A:We going full in, live near school, you know, have full time class, had a full time job.
Speaker A:You just got to do what gotta do.
Speaker A:One time I had like two or three jobs.
Speaker A:Here's what it is.
Speaker A:Joined a school, join the radio station at school.
Speaker A:You know, like literally I'm a 30 year old man and literally a whole bunch of people around me under the age of 21.
Speaker A:So it was interesting, you know, have I used my, my degree?
Speaker A:Yeah, I mean it was a de.
Speaker A:Bachelor science communications.
Speaker B:Aren't you using it right now?
Speaker A:Hey man, I've been using this for years.
Speaker A:Communicate with people, emphasis on mass communication.
Speaker A:And I messed around and got a, a minor that I'll never use in sports management.
Speaker A:So therein lies that.
Speaker A:But nah, man, I, I completely agree with both of you.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:Unless you have a reason why you need to be there.
Speaker A:College is a racket.
Speaker A:100 Definitely growing up.
Speaker C:I have a question.
Speaker C:I, I want to pose this for both of y' all real quick, just based on what you said, okay.
Speaker C:Because I do think college is a hustle, but I do understand people's argument for how college helps with people's growth and development.
Speaker C:Do you think there's legit value in that or do you think that's just some people say to keep getting your money?
Speaker A:So I believe that you have to go to college for a reason, like a personal reason.
Speaker A:If you go to college because your parents say you got to go to college, then you're gonna do a whole bunch of.
Speaker A:It's not going to be, it's not Going to be benefits you because you're not doing it for yourself, you're doing it for someone else.
Speaker A:And that's kind of from my thought process.
Speaker A:I'm not gonna sit here and say I went to college the first time for myself or just not to go to the military.
Speaker A:I would say that I felt that I was expected to go to college.
Speaker A:You know, I felt.
Speaker A:I don't.
Speaker A:I'm not gonna say pressure, but it was like the last logical step.
Speaker C:So like a natural progression after high school.
Speaker C:I feel like that's what college became like.
Speaker C:It's just like a natural, like high school part two for a lot of people.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And that's why I didn't go to college where I grew up, because it was definitely gonna be that.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:But no, I would say I learned that I was not.
Speaker A:I was not mature.
Speaker A:Mature enough to do that at that time.
Speaker A:Now, did it.
Speaker A:Did it cost money for me to learn that?
Speaker A:Yeah, it did.
Speaker A:However, you know, I'm glad I learned it.
Speaker A:I mean, you know, it doesn't matter what education is.
Speaker A:Education always costs something.
Speaker A:That's just the way I look at it.
Speaker A:Whether it costs you for your degree or you just cost you for life lessons.
Speaker A:I mean, you know, so like, for me, like, I. I tell people, you know, if I ever get asked a question about it, I am very proud that I went back at 30 and I graduated.
Speaker A:Like, that is.
Speaker A:That is a badge of honor for me because there are a lot of people, when they get older it.
Speaker A:And they don't do it even though they want to.
Speaker A:Now I'm not on any of those people because when it's all and done, you got to do what's best for you.
Speaker A:And for me, I know there's a job that I wanted.
Speaker A:And honestly, if I didn't want that job, I probably wouldn't have went back.
Speaker A:Just very honest.
Speaker A:And my life will be completely different.
Speaker A:Right now, 100%.
Speaker A:I don't know what I will be doing at this moment, because for me, just that interaction at Old Dominion, you know, I met a lot of friends, did of lot a lot of different things because of doing that.
Speaker A:So like that com.
Speaker A:That experience completely changed the.
Speaker A:The trajectory of my life, you know.
Speaker A:But hey, man, you know, I also believe college ain't for everybody.
Speaker A:It just ain't.
Speaker A:You know, I wish.
Speaker A:I wish I was more mechanically inclined.
Speaker A:I wish I could get go be a plumber or be an electrician.
Speaker A:These hands say no.
Speaker A:In my hand.
Speaker A:Eye coordination also says no.
Speaker A:That's why I Suck at Halo.
Speaker A:But that'll mean I stopped playing.
Speaker A:I just kept dying and getting back up and dying again, you know, especially with plasma grenades.
Speaker A:Moby.
Speaker A:So like, as far as, you know, the college thing, you know, it's to each his own on that one.
Speaker A:I know some people who went to college, graduated and just didn't do much after it.
Speaker A:I know people who went to college, didn't graduate and are happy as shit, like.
Speaker A:And I know people who didn't go to college and are happy as like, hey man, that's the cool thing about destiny.
Speaker A:You, you control it, you know, it's not, it's not something that you can do.
Speaker A:Now as far as the world, I.
Speaker C:Think,.
Speaker A:I think the issue that I have is the expectation of going to college.
Speaker A:For some people, that's very, very strong.
Speaker A:I am of the effect where as not.
Speaker A:And I'm not gonna sit here and say that I didn't have a choice growing up because I did.
Speaker A:I mean it's work, military, college, those are my three choices if I plan on living in the house with my parents.
Speaker A:So that's what that is.
Speaker A:Some people don't have that.
Speaker A:There are some people who just sit at home.
Speaker A:I mean, the future bothers me me a little bit because unfortunately I do.
Speaker A:See, there are small things in this world that lead me to how dumb that movie is.
Speaker A:But I can also unfortunately see not, not us being that movie, but something freaking close.
Speaker A:Because yeah, I, I, I, I do have a fear of our country being run by stupid people.
Speaker A:And when I say stupid, I say common sense less people.
Speaker A:What is it common sense?
Speaker A:Is it common?
Speaker C:Yeah, I mean we, we really are on the pace for that movie because I mean in the movie they hired a celebrity.
Speaker C:It was a celebrity president.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:Celebrity president.
Speaker A:I mean, look, man, it's, they did.
Speaker C:A whole bunch of things to eliminate the farming industry based on stupidity kind of happening now.
Speaker A:I, bro, it's like I worry, I do worry about the pathway of education because, you know, whether it's college or trade or whatever, I worry the fact that our kids aren't getting the basic stuff in high school.
Speaker A:And when I say basic, I'm not even talking, talking about like grays and stuff.
Speaker A:I'm, I'm worried more about the social construct of school and how much I feel like it's not happening anymore.
Speaker A:Yeah, we had covet and that just, hey, let's go ahead and get an accident.
Speaker A:The social construct or just social?
Speaker B:Social.
Speaker A:Thank you.
Speaker A:Covet like But I think it's the fact that we still haven't recovered from, from that part because there are a lot of kids out here between the ages of 9 and 35 that still don't do things socially.
Speaker A:It's kind of a problem, you know, my opinion, kind of a problem.
Speaker A:And I do feel like in some aspects, when you go to college, that should help you out with that.
Speaker A:That or go to even school.
Speaker A:The social aspect of being around other people that are not your family is important.
Speaker A:You know, the question is how much that cost you.
Speaker A:I mean, but high school most of the time is free, and we can't even get that right.
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Speaker A:I mean, I believe education is everywhere.
Speaker A:And I do think, I think our.
Speaker C:Idea of education is the issue.
Speaker C:And yeah, you know, you know, coming, coming from our community, coming from the black community, you know, we, we've been hearing it for, for decades where it's like, hey, education is the key.
Speaker C:Education is the key.
Speaker C:Education is the key.
Speaker C:But I don't think we actually really defined what education was.
Speaker C:Education didn't necessarily mean you had to go to college when you had to learn some shit.
Speaker C:Education is just learning some stuff.
Speaker C:Like if, like I said, if, if you, like, I go back to the shipyard, they mean a lot of people straight out of high school went to the shipyard.
Speaker C:Man, they lear and doing well for themselves.
Speaker C:People who went straight to, like, H Vac Plumbing, electric man, they learned some and they're doing fine.
Speaker C:It's.
Speaker C:But education was the key.
Speaker C:They had to learn some.
Speaker C:Yeah, but education isn't only acquired in college.
Speaker C:It's like, it's not the only place to get it.
Speaker C:But I think for so long, that was, you know, we just crave to be educated or said saying we are educated.
Speaker C:Here's the idea of saying you're educated.
Speaker C:Like, you know, it's not the same as today, but I mean, I know, like, 20, 30 years.
Speaker C:Like, just the idea of saying, especially when the black community just idea saying so and so graduated from college, it was almost like, oh, she must be super smart then.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:And that was like, sounds like it is what it is.
Speaker C:Like, all right, cool.
Speaker C:Like, unemployment line just like everybody else.
Speaker B:So true.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I think our parents.
Speaker A:I think our parents saw education as a way out.
Speaker A:Out for us in our generation.
Speaker C:They did, but I just don't think it was well defined.
Speaker C:Like, and a lot of it, it's not their fault.
Speaker C:I mean, you know, they were.
Speaker C:They were sold the hustle.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And the other thing is, like, Moby, you're a parent.
Speaker A:I mean, stuff.
Speaker A:But I feel like one of the statements is, I work hard so you don't have to.
Speaker A:And I resonate with that because I feel like.
Speaker A:I feel like my.
Speaker A:My parents work hard, and they're both retired and stuff, so, like, yo, like, do what you want.
Speaker C:Like, you know, part of what you said is true.
Speaker C:I think so many people in our older generation physically worked hard, and they were just like, hey, man, if my kid can get by on just being smart and not having to break their back physically, that's what I want for them.
Speaker C:And I get it.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:So, like, I'm not faulting them for that because, you know, if.
Speaker C:If you are a manual labor for 20, 30 years and you're looking at your kid grow up, and you're like.
Speaker C:And you're.
Speaker C:You're like, man, I don't want you to have to do this.
Speaker C:Like, I would love for you to be the person telling people like me what to do.
Speaker C:And the pathway to get there was, like, education.
Speaker C:Like, hey, if.
Speaker C:If you got.
Speaker C:If you got them papers, as they say, but you.
Speaker C:Man, you got them papers.
Speaker C:If you got them papers.
Speaker C:Yeah, they can.
Speaker C:They'll pay you to tell other people what to do.
Speaker A:I mean, look, man, these hands ain't no label on these.
Speaker A:They.
Speaker A:They nice.
Speaker A:That's on purpose.
Speaker A:That is on purpose.
Speaker A:I do labor now for myself.
Speaker A:But nah, man, your boy grew up not doing that labor.
Speaker A:For real.
Speaker A:Like, I'm.
Speaker A:I 100 agree with that.
Speaker C:The crazy thing is like, like, my kids look at labor completely different because the idea of labor to them is just anything that they can't access instantly.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:Like, the idea of, like, hey, man, go look up in an encyclopedia.
Speaker C:They're just like, why the would I get a book when I can just type this on my phone and it pulls up?
Speaker C:Going to grab a physical book and opening pages is labor to them.
Speaker C:That's labor.
Speaker C:Like, why would I want to.
Speaker C:That's physical.
Speaker C:Why am I. Oh, man, come to.
Speaker A:My parents house, bro.
Speaker A:My parents still got that 26 thing.
Speaker C:It's like, my grandma still got.
Speaker C:My grandma still got all the encyclopedias in the corner, and she got like all these old photo.
Speaker C:Photo albums.
Speaker C:She's got, like, old atlases from, like, road trips and stuff like that.
Speaker C:Yo, do you think any kid under like, 30 can read a map?
Speaker C:Like, get you somewhere by looking at a map?
Speaker C:Hell no, man.
Speaker A:Real talk, man, I could barely read a godd map.
Speaker C:Yo.
Speaker B:Come on, bro.
Speaker C:I was navigating road trips at seven, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:Like, literally, like, I had the map.
Speaker C:I tell me, hey, we're gonna get off from this exit.
Speaker C:Like, I used.
Speaker C:That used to be the thrill for me on a road trip.
Speaker C:Like, they'd be like, hey, you got it.
Speaker C:And the fact that my parents and my grandma, people trusted me with a map, I was like, hey, man, this could be like, a.
Speaker C:What a goofy movie.
Speaker C:I could take y' all anywhere if.
Speaker A:Y' all gonna listen to me.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:So AGI, man, the way.
Speaker A:The reason why I say I can't necessarily read a map because, man, they'd be like an inch is like five miles.
Speaker A:It's a lot of inches right there, man.
Speaker A:And I can't, like.
Speaker B:But that's not you not being able to read a map.
Speaker B:That's you being irritated.
Speaker B:Well, I mean, but you can still read it.
Speaker B:You can still know that.
Speaker A:I mean, I know what it says, but if you ask me, distance.
Speaker A:No, I can't help you with that, player.
Speaker A:If you know the one on the map.
Speaker C:But the thing about maps, distance really isn't all that important.
Speaker C:Really.
Speaker C:What's important is do you know where you start supposed to turn?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Like, do you know what highway you supposed to transition from this road to the next one?
Speaker C:As long as you know that, like,.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, we gotta turn on 601.
Speaker A:How far?
Speaker A:601.
Speaker A:I can't help you with that, player.
Speaker A:It's a couple of lines.
Speaker A:We'll get there.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:Keep staying and we'll see it Ruben,.
Speaker B:You can't judge an inch.
Speaker B:Just like eyeball an inch, man.
Speaker C:Yeah, for real.
Speaker C:That's kind of sad.
Speaker C:But you know what, man?
Speaker C:I respect your vulnerability up here, man.
Speaker C:I respect the vulnerability.
Speaker A:That's what it is, baby.
Speaker C:That's what it is.
Speaker C:But yeah, the fact that you have a clue of like, what to do with the map, man, if I, If I handed Kira and Kaden a map right now and was like, get here, I can even give him a hint.
Speaker C:Hey, you're here.
Speaker B:You're here and you're facing this direction.
Speaker C:You, you, you finish it.
Speaker C:I mean, man, they be pulling out their phone.
Speaker C:So, man, I'm just gonna type in the address.
Speaker C:Like, I'm gonna tell you a vulnerable story.
Speaker C:Not about me, but about my kid.
Speaker C:Well, so Kira got.
Speaker C:I don't know what happened.
Speaker C:I was at a family barbecue.
Speaker C:I don't know what happened, but her.
Speaker C:But her and my wife apparently had some type of conversation back and forth that didn't go well.
Speaker C:So Kira's like, I'm gonna go take a walk.
Speaker C:Apparently, that's what we're saying.
Speaker C:I don't know.
Speaker C:I was, I was, hey, whatever, like outside the house.
Speaker C:Yeah, I came in on later effect.
Speaker C:So I called Kira.
Speaker C:I'm like, hey, where the hell you at?
Speaker C:And she said, I don't know.
Speaker C:And I'm just like, what you mean?
Speaker C:I just been walking for a while.
Speaker C:Well, why don't you walk your ass back home?
Speaker C:And she was like, I don't know how to get there.
Speaker C:And.
Speaker C:And I was so.
Speaker C:My.
Speaker C:I was so flabbergasted.
Speaker C:The idea that this person been walking for maybe 10, 15, 20 minutes, know.
Speaker A:How to go back and couldn't get.
Speaker C:Back home from walking 10.
Speaker C:So then I, I turned full fledged youth.
Speaker C:I was just like, yo, just pull the jeep.
Speaker C:Just pull our address up on your phone, man.
Speaker C:And she was like, oh, I didn't even think about that.
Speaker C:I'm just like, oh my God.
Speaker C:What the.
Speaker A:Man, I'm surprised you didn't tell her.
Speaker A:Drop a pen.
Speaker B:I. I could almost feel the disappointment.
Speaker C:I mean, first of all, I was already in a bad position because like, you know, I got an angry woman at the house, like, I don't know where your daughter went.
Speaker A:I'm just like, God dam, here we your daughter.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker C:It's, it's.
Speaker A:Especially when it's clearly her daughter.
Speaker C:No, no, no, that's mine.
Speaker C:It's mine.
Speaker C:It's.
Speaker C:It's only hers when something good happens.
Speaker C:And I'm okay with that, cuz.
Speaker C:Look, man, when she accomplishes something great in life, the first person she's going to think is mom.
Speaker C:And I'm like, hey, whatever.
Speaker C:Like, you know, I ain't do.
Speaker C:I'm good.
Speaker C:Because the gratitude for me is her success.
Speaker C:That's it.
Speaker C:I don't need the.
Speaker C:I don't need the credit.
Speaker C:But, yeah, man, I was just like, man, how you not know how to get home?
Speaker C:And we live here.
Speaker C:Like, we've lived in this neighborhood.
Speaker B:Y' all at y's house.
Speaker C:We were at the house.
Speaker B:I thought you were.
Speaker B:I thought you were at a function, at somebody else's house.
Speaker C:No, we.
Speaker C:We've lived in this neighborhood for a significant amount of time.
Speaker C:You've been here all from elementary school through middle school.
Speaker C:You're in high school now.
Speaker C:And you mean you walk 20 miles, 20 minutes in one direction, and you're just like, I don't know where I'm at.
Speaker A:Jesus.
Speaker A:And she didn't think to pull out the GPS to be like, first of all, the fact that she would have.
Speaker C:Had to think to do that is offensive to me because as a kid who walked every inch of Portsmouth, Virginia, like, there's no part of Port Virginia where I haven't physically walked.
Speaker B:Even the places you weren't supposed to be.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker C:There's no place in Portsmouth I have physically walked and probably had to walk my ass back home.
Speaker A:No matter.
Speaker C:Even I had to cross a bridge, man.
Speaker C:Like, and you in the same neighborhood.
Speaker C:You don't know how to get home.
Speaker A:That's why I never did that walking, man.
Speaker A:That walking won't cool.
Speaker A:Hey, look, man, you gotta get back home sometime.
Speaker C:Hey, bro, when you get.
Speaker C:When you want to get there, you'll get there.
Speaker A:I ain't never gonna get there.
Speaker A:Bad enough.
Speaker C:Hey, man, I had to get it, man.
Speaker C:I had to get there, man.
Speaker C:Between a bike and.
Speaker C:And walking, man, there's no part of Portsmouth where I haven't physically.
Speaker C:Feet on the ground.
Speaker A:She walked and didn't know where she was.
Speaker B:Well, in her defense, she was upset.
Speaker B:In her defense, she was upset.
Speaker B:So maybe that has something to do with.
Speaker C:I, I, I get it ag.
Speaker C:But no, I still know what neighborhood.
Speaker B:I mean, you never been that upset before.
Speaker C:Yeah, it's like.
Speaker C:It's like, yo, you.
Speaker C:You don't know a landmark?
Speaker C:Like, you don't.
Speaker A:Like, it's past McDonald's, for God's sake.
Speaker A:Like, once.
Speaker C:You.
Speaker B:Again, A.J.
Speaker C:If we, if we.
Speaker C:If we had just moved here.
Speaker C:Yeah, like, she wasn't familiar with the neighborhood.
Speaker C:Cool.
Speaker C:You've been here since you.
Speaker C:Since 20.
Speaker C:Like, 19.
Speaker C:We've been here.
Speaker C:You've been here seven years.
Speaker A:I mean, you're old enough to know.
Speaker A:I'm just saying.
Speaker B:I'm just trying to throw her a lifeline, bro.
Speaker C:What it also let me know is, like, hey, man, these kids don't know about the grind, man.
Speaker C:Like, she don't ride her bike around anymore.
Speaker C:She don't want to be like, she got a chauffeur hurt.
Speaker C:Like, I ain't had nobody taking me places.
Speaker C:Like, if I.
Speaker C:Like, I just told Rumor if I needed to get there, I had to get there.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Shout out to my fans.
Speaker A:They was like, nah, you ain't walking nowhere.
Speaker A:I'm either taking.
Speaker A:You ain't going.
Speaker A:Are you gonna take me?
Speaker A:No, I guess I ain't going there.
Speaker A:No, it was.
Speaker A:It was very simple.
Speaker B:Like, that's hilarious, though.
Speaker A:If it weren't in the general neighborhood where I lived and I wanted to go see my boy, like, five neighborhoods over, that's fine.
Speaker B:That's hilarious.
Speaker A:Either.
Speaker A:Either I'm taking you there or you ain't going.
Speaker A:All right, cool.
Speaker A:Can you take me there?
Speaker A:No, I just need.
Speaker C:My mom just needed to know when I was gonna be back and where I was going.
Speaker C:Now if I didn't want her to know where I was going, I knew I needed to be back by X time.
Speaker C:Like, this time.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker C:And look, man, I didn't.
Speaker C:I didn't have, like, I didn't walk everywhere.
Speaker C:Enforcement on purpose, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:Sometimes it was just like a panic reaction, like, oh, I gotta get back.
Speaker C:Or, you know, I ain't trying to throw my cousin E under the bus, but, I mean, he want the most reliable sometimes because he.
Speaker C:He was my transportation a lot of times.
Speaker C:So he was gonna take me somewhere, I'd be like, yo.
Speaker C:And, you know, I'll be honest, sometimes I'm really supposed to be there, but, you know, he dropped me off.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:I'd be like, hey, bro, you gonna come pick me up?
Speaker A:Got you guys.
Speaker C:I got you.
Speaker A:And then, you know, he get caught up, man.
Speaker C:He definitely would get caught up, and I would definitely have to make a decision.
Speaker C:I can either wait here.
Speaker C:I can make a very uncomfortable phone call.
Speaker C:Call to my mom.
Speaker C:My asses gotta get back to the crib somehow.
Speaker C:Like.
Speaker A:So I guess that mom.
Speaker A:That mom call won't happen.
Speaker C:Hell, no.
Speaker C:It's good.
Speaker C:And.
Speaker C:And not.
Speaker C:Because I didn't, you know, I didn't want to get in trouble, but I wasn't.
Speaker C:I didn't want to be disappointed in her being like, ain't nobody coming to get your ass.
Speaker C:You got there, didn't you?
Speaker A:You.
Speaker C:You better get back.
Speaker C:And I know you better be back by this time.
Speaker A:And that was all.
Speaker A:Remember, that was also the time of pagers, because you had to have money and you have a cell phone back then, so you did not, huh?
Speaker C:I did not have a cell phone.
Speaker C:I did have a pager, but I ain't had no service on it.
Speaker C:I just had the pager for the.
Speaker C:Look, baby, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:Like, you had no service?
Speaker C:Yeah, I pulled that thing out, you know, like somebody had really hit me up.
Speaker B:Come on, man.
Speaker C:You can hit the button to make it, make the alert.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:Hey, call this calling me?
Speaker C:I ain't had no page number.
Speaker A:Yo, yo, I got this 911.
Speaker A:I gotta get up out.
Speaker A:I'll talk to y' all later.
Speaker C:And my page was sweet.
Speaker C:I had that see through pager where you can see all the mechanics inside of it.
Speaker C:Yeah, bro.
Speaker C:I mean, I don't know where I got it from because it ain't had no service, but you know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:I did my thing with no service.
Speaker C:I fronted with it for, like, one week, and then I was just like, hey, man, I can't perpetrate this hard because one day somebody gonna ask me for this number.
Speaker C:I just got to give him a number.
Speaker A:Well, I think we.
Speaker A:We did a pretty good thing talking about education and, you know, the importance of it and not necessarily having to be a college thing, but the biggest thing, I would.
Speaker A:I would sum this up by saying, hey, man, all education is not.
Speaker A:Does not have to be college.
Speaker A:College education.
Speaker A:You just got to become educated, period.
Speaker A:And Lord knows.
Speaker A:What was the name of that movie again?
Speaker A:Ag Idiocracy.
Speaker A:If you believe.
Speaker A:Yeah, it.
Speaker A:Just watch that movie.
Speaker A:And if that doesn't scare your ass straight, I can't help you.
Speaker A:Let's get some education out here for all of us.
Speaker A:Not just for us.
Speaker A:Your kids.
Speaker A:Your kids, kids.
Speaker A:I mean, go ahead, set that.
Speaker A:That up for your kids.
Speaker A:Kids, kids.
Speaker A:Because, like, bro, if not, I mean,.
Speaker C:You don't want to be watering plants with Gatorade.
Speaker A:Hell no, man.
Speaker A:I mean, like, it's Gatorade.
Speaker A:Tastes too good for that, man.
Speaker C:That's what the plants crave.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Oh, Jesus Christ.
Speaker A:And the dude put water on and started to grow.
Speaker A:Like, what are we talking about?
Speaker A:Oh, that movie is crazy.
Speaker A:But yeah, Idiocracy.
Speaker A:It's a movie that.
Speaker A:Yeah, you should watch it.
Speaker A:And they'll probably be scared of living.
Speaker A:After you finish laughing, you're going to be scared out of your fucking mind.
Speaker B:But how can you be scared if, like, if you watch it now, you've never seen it, you're already in it.
Speaker C:Not only that, Ruben, it's not going to scare nobody.
Speaker C:We watch Terminator and look what's happening.
Speaker A:I mean, Skynet, baby.
Speaker C:We were all in that generation of Terminator and we are proactively doing it right now.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And they had like five damn movies.
Speaker A:We had one Terminator and five guys.
Speaker A:Five other people tried to kill us too.
Speaker A:So, like, hey, Skynet, man.
Speaker A:Skynet and stupid people.
Speaker C:What are we, like three years away from Skynet, man?
Speaker B:Yeah, 20, 29.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Look, man, remember.
Speaker A:Remember Y2K?
Speaker A:Everybody thought was gonna shut down and then it happened.
Speaker A:Everybody's like, oh, I'm actually reading a.
Speaker C:Book right now that's called if they Build It, We All Die.
Speaker C:And it's basically just.
Speaker C:It's basically a whole bunch of like, AI researchers that they like, literally said, like, hey, man, we ain't built the super intelligent A, but when we do, we all died.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:I mean, War Games, man.
Speaker A:Movie, Bruh.
Speaker A:That was 83.
Speaker A:And we almost.
Speaker A:Yeah, man.
Speaker A:Crazy.
Speaker C:I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker C:Totally unrelated.
Speaker C:But you know what scared me?
Speaker C:They were talking during this Iran thing, they were talking about.
Speaker C:I didn't realize that a lot of nuclear missile weapons, like, countermeasures are AI controlled.
Speaker B:Trolled.
Speaker B:All that is the Skynet, man.
Speaker B:I mean, I mean, we joke about it.
Speaker C:That doesn't terrify you, though.
Speaker C:That's like.
Speaker B:But I mean, how can.
Speaker B:I mean.
Speaker B:I mean, it's like, terrify, Terrified.
Speaker B:But we're already here.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:Like, you've been saying this for the last.
Speaker B:You say something about this every week for the last like six.
Speaker B:Six weeks or so.
Speaker C:I mean, I. I firmly believe it.
Speaker C:I'm just like, man, what are we doing?
Speaker C:AI is teaching itself.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker C:If that doesn't scare people.
Speaker C:Like, hey, man, AI teaching itself because everybody tries to hit you.
Speaker C:Well, you know, we're.
Speaker C:We're programmed AI the AI camp.
Speaker C:I'm like, bro, AI teaches itself.
Speaker B:Is it Miles Dyson?
Speaker B:Is that his character name in.
Speaker B:Yeah, Isn't that what he said?
Speaker B:Exactly what he said.
Speaker B:Here we are, like, we started the.
Speaker C:AI with like the chess thing.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:It was trying to beat the grandmaster.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker C:The AI taught Itself how to beat.
Speaker C:Like, we didn't program it to beat the grandmaster.
Speaker C:It was like, no, no, no.
Speaker C:We taught.
Speaker B:It taught itself 100%.
Speaker A:Shall we play a game?
Speaker B:There you go.
Speaker A:All right then, ag, what's on your mind?
Speaker A:Man?
Speaker B:I think my mama would have been proud of me today, bro.
Speaker B:I think she would have.
Speaker B:I think she would have.
Speaker A:Just today.
Speaker B:Yeah, just today.
Speaker B:Just today.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker B:Because I did fried pork chops and garlic mashed potatoes.
Speaker B:I think she would have been proud.
Speaker A:I can agree with that.
Speaker B:So shout out to my mom for doing it and making it look so effortless my entire life.
Speaker B:Yeah, man.
Speaker B:I thought about my mom today cooking.
Speaker B:I was like, you know what?
Speaker B:I think my mama been all right with me today.
Speaker A:You break out the cast iron pan 100%.
Speaker A:Woo.
Speaker A:That's that real heat right there.
Speaker B:Yes, sir.
Speaker B:Yes, sir.
Speaker B:So, yeah, Good day today.
Speaker A:Hey, is Moby frozen on your screen?
Speaker B:He's been frozen for quite a while.
Speaker B:I can hear him.
Speaker B:He was still talking.
Speaker C:It's the AI man.
Speaker C:Tell me, man.
Speaker C:AI is like, oh, you talking that.
Speaker B:Now.
Speaker B:Would it be crazy if AI said yes?
Speaker B:Exactly what I'm doing, sir?
Speaker A:No.
Speaker C:It's starting early with us AIs like, you stuck in time.
Speaker C:Now you.
Speaker A:We got you.
Speaker A:Awesome.
Speaker A:Moby, what's on your mind?
Speaker C:Hello?
Speaker C:Man, I was going to talk about cooking stuff too, because I made a quesadilla today.
Speaker C:O chicken.
Speaker C:Well, half chicken, half steak.
Speaker C:Because I ain't really know how I wanted to make the quesadilla.
Speaker C:Cause I got like these carb free wraps.
Speaker C:So I was just like, man, I'm gonna make some.
Speaker C:So I got some chicken taco seasoning and made the chicken in that.
Speaker C:Made, you know, some shoulder, some steak shoulder, which, you know, usually tougher, but I made it tender enough.
Speaker C:So I was like, man, threw it in that quesadilla, put a little queso in there, got that three different types of cheese in there, had Monterey Jack and I had the Mexican blend.
Speaker C:I mean, you know, had to get a little heat in there.
Speaker C:Threw a little jalapeno sauce in there.
Speaker C:And I was just like, hey, man, I shouldn't do this no more, man.
Speaker C:Because why not?
Speaker C:I could eat that all the time, man.
Speaker C:I don't know if my toilet would appreciate that.
Speaker B:Toilet.
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:I don't know.
Speaker C:I don't know if my toilet would appreciate that blend.
Speaker B:I mean, but what is it that bothers you?
Speaker A:That's in.
Speaker B:Because it sounded pretty good to me.
Speaker C:It was great.
Speaker C:And I I don't.
Speaker C:I don't need to eat like that all the time, man.
Speaker B:Okay, but I mean, it sounds so good.
Speaker B:Especially when you said the queso.
Speaker B:I was like, oh, my God.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah, man.
Speaker C:I like blended the queso on the wrap, put the cheese in, put my meat in.
Speaker C:Ah.
Speaker C:Seared it to perfection.
Speaker C:Had my little pizza roll out there to cut it.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:I tried to make it look, you know, official, and that was good as a.
Speaker A:You just made one for yourself?
Speaker C:Hell yeah.
Speaker C:They can make their own.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker C:They still plenty of chicken, there's plenty of steak.
Speaker C:I ain't know if they want to make like, actually, no winner.
Speaker C:Don't really eat steak or chicken.
Speaker C:So she's out.
Speaker C:And Kira, I mean, who knows, she might put it in some type of pasta because that's what she does.
Speaker C:Like everything is something.
Speaker A:She carbon it up, man.
Speaker C:Man, don't nobody carb load like here, man.
Speaker C:Don't know.
Speaker C:Like, I. I pray that one day her metabolism doesn't stop because she.
Speaker C:She's gonna be £400, bro.
Speaker A:Like this.
Speaker B:She.
Speaker C:She makes.
Speaker C:She makes pasta and.
Speaker C:Oh my God, it was pasta, mashed potatoes, macaroni, and then what, bro?
Speaker C:If it's.
Speaker C:If it's a carb, she's on it.
Speaker A:How does that even go together?
Speaker B:Hey, man, if that's what you like, you can go together, put on the same plate.
Speaker B:It's going together.
Speaker C:Exactly.
Speaker C:So she made.
Speaker C:She.
Speaker C:She made a spaghetti sauce pasta.
Speaker C:She had a white sauce.
Speaker C:She had some noodles.
Speaker C:She.
Speaker C:Hard boiled egg.
Speaker C:She made like some type of chicken stir fry and put it all in one thing.
Speaker C:It was all in one big pot.
Speaker C:And she was like, it's really good.
Speaker C:And I'm just like, I'll take your word, baby.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Well, I can't really judge.
Speaker B:I remember one Thanksgiving we had leftover and I had.
Speaker B:I made a Mac and cheese and gravy sandwich, bro, with.
Speaker B:With ham on it, bruh.
Speaker B:Oh, my goodness.
Speaker B:So I can't.
Speaker B:I can't talk at all.
Speaker C:You know what?
Speaker C:That.
Speaker C:Actually I can understand.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:How can you understand me but not her?
Speaker C:Because the leftover plate after Thanksgiving.
Speaker C:Yeah, that's a staple.
Speaker B:That.
Speaker A:That's a staple.
Speaker C:You just throwing some shit together that you got left over.
Speaker C:She did this by choice.
Speaker A:Ag.
Speaker C:Like, these are all things that she put together.
Speaker C:Like she.
Speaker C:I'm just saying, I've been on that leftover thing where my mom's like, I ain't making nothing.
Speaker C:So.
Speaker C:Yes, you can't find nothing in there.
Speaker C:Yeah, you ain't eating.
Speaker C:All right, cool.
Speaker C:I'm put.
Speaker C:I'm putting this random together.
Speaker C:She had options and she did that.
Speaker B:She had options, bro.
Speaker A:That's like, oh, man, I'm fat and I don't know if I could do that to myself.
Speaker A:That's crazy.
Speaker A:Hey, man, I feel like everybody's got.
Speaker C:A food combination that they do themselves that the public is probably like, I don't see how that goes together, but I feel like she got a whole assortment of them.
Speaker C:Like, it's just like, hey, man, what you eating?
Speaker C:Carbs.
Speaker C:I mean, you're gonna be specific?
Speaker C:No, I mean all of them.
Speaker B:That's the.
Speaker A:That's the benefit of being young and having a high ass metabolism.
Speaker A:Because she plays basketball, bro.
Speaker A:Because she knows she can eat anything and that shit's gone in 20 minutes.
Speaker B:Actually, she probably doesn't know.
Speaker B:It's just what she's used to.
Speaker B:She's only been.
Speaker A:Clearly, she hasn't gained a chance in 10 years.
Speaker B:Mo right, man?
Speaker B:In 10 years?
Speaker A:Yeah, no, 10 years.
Speaker C:But she's trying to gain weight, so I'm like, you know, you're taking the right steps.
Speaker C:I just.
Speaker C:I don't know, man.
Speaker A:Like, I pray for your heart, baby.
Speaker A:I pray for your heart.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:I'm just like, yo, man.
Speaker C:Like.
Speaker C:And you know what?
Speaker C:I can't say that I know where she gets it from.
Speaker C:Like, my wife can just eat all carbs.
Speaker C:Like, if she could just have a carb buffet, she'd be cool.
Speaker B:A carb buffet?
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:We're gonna go to the buffet and she's just gonna get all the carbs.
Speaker A:I mean, look, man, I. I used to eat all carbs, and I became 378 pounds.
Speaker A:Like, it must be nice, man, being.
Speaker A:Being a woman with a awesome metabolism.
Speaker C:You know what, man?
Speaker C:I. I do want to preface this by saying there's a little bit of hate coming from me right now.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:Because I can't.
Speaker C:I can't eat carbs.
Speaker C:Don't get me wrong.
Speaker C:I like carbs.
Speaker C:Like, I want some.
Speaker C:Some thick home homemade mashed potatoes.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:I. I want them nice buttery rolls.
Speaker C:But, like, seeing them do it, I'm just like, y'.
Speaker C:All.
Speaker C:Y' all just rubbing it in.
Speaker A:I mean, you can eat carbs.
Speaker B:Is that what they're doing?
Speaker A:Rubbing it in?
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:You know, so ag.
Speaker C:Like, I'm.
Speaker C:I'm eating it on a normal day.
Speaker C:I got my.
Speaker C:My grilled protein of choice.
Speaker C:Yeah, I got, like, some.
Speaker C:Some.
Speaker C:Some broccoli, some green beans, Some.
Speaker C:Some.
Speaker C:Some type of.
Speaker C:Maybe a little cup of rice or something.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker C:And here they come.
Speaker B:Here they come.
Speaker C:Mashed potato.
Speaker C:They got.
Speaker C:They got baked macaroni, mashed potatoes, and sweet potatoes.
Speaker C:They got it all on the same plate.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker C:And then they sopping it with a roll.
Speaker C:I'm like, what are we doing?
Speaker C:And.
Speaker A:And your wife's a pescatarian.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:That mean.
Speaker C:That just means she ain't eating nothing.
Speaker C:The only protein she's going to e. Exactly.
Speaker C:Like, so there ain't no seafood available.
Speaker A:The winner.
Speaker A:Man, I wish I could eat like that.
Speaker A:Well, I mean, I used to be able to eat like that, and I got heavy, so I don't think I.
Speaker C:Ever could eat like that.
Speaker C:I need a variety.
Speaker C:Like, look, I love carbs, but, like, I couldn't just eat carbs.
Speaker C:Like, hey, man, can we throw some protein in here?
Speaker C:Like, I hate to say it, but, like, even me not eating a ton of vegetables, like, throw something up there.
Speaker C:Throw me some broccoli, some green beans can make me feel like I just need that so I can feel like I'm still being healthy even though I'm not.
Speaker C:Because, you know, that's.
Speaker C:That's what the black people do at the functions.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:Yeah, you get all.
Speaker C:You get all this.
Speaker C:That's gonna kill you.
Speaker C:And then you throw some greens up there.
Speaker C:Like, you got some collars up there.
Speaker C:You good.
Speaker B:But the colors will kill you the way we doing.
Speaker C:I. I know that, but you know, it's green, so we always said it's a vegetable, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:Because it's green.
Speaker A:It's got to be a color other than white, baby.
Speaker B:Oh, my good.
Speaker B:But you right.
Speaker C:We got.
Speaker C:We got the green beans with the ham h in it.
Speaker C:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker C:But it's green beans, though.
Speaker C:They green.
Speaker C:We good.
Speaker A:Nah, man, it ain't nothing.
Speaker A:It ain't nothing that makes your heart realize that it's about to die.
Speaker A:When you see.
Speaker A:We call big mama.
Speaker A:We.
Speaker A:We see her fry cornbread man after she put a big glob of lard up in that, and it's just like.
Speaker A:But that's.
Speaker B:You do cornbread, bro.
Speaker A:Bro, I understand that, man.
Speaker A:But, hey, look, man, your heart knows that death is coming if it's a vegetable.
Speaker C:That's all that matters to.
Speaker C:If it's a vegetable, we'll call.
Speaker C:Like, my grandma will eat fried okra and be like, well, that's okra.
Speaker C:That's good for you.
Speaker C:But it's.
Speaker C:You just fried it like it,.
Speaker A:You.
Speaker B:Just up on a good part.
Speaker A:Like, what are you.
Speaker A:But it's still, it's still a vegetable, honey.
Speaker A:No, man, this is.
Speaker C:Man, it's vegetables, man.
Speaker C:Hey, look, my.
Speaker C:My grandma actually probably is the reason that so many of us had the carb addiction.
Speaker C:Because like I used to say on a road trip, my grandma would fry up some chicken and have a loaf of bread.
Speaker C:And that was our road trip stuff.
Speaker C:Like get that roll, get that slice of bread, fried chicken, and you good.
Speaker C:That's it.
Speaker B:But at least the protein offset the sugar in the bread.
Speaker C:Sure.
Speaker A:And the flowering, that fried greasy goodness.
Speaker C:I mean, I don't know.
Speaker A:Sure fried greasy goodness, you know.
Speaker C:And this ain't hating because look, man, if you.
Speaker A:It was good.
Speaker C:If you, if you want to get me back to like a happy nostalgic place, let my grandma fry some chicken and give me a slice of bread.
Speaker C:And I'm just like, hey, man, we good.
Speaker C:I'm.
Speaker C:You can keep your five star meal.
Speaker C:You can do all that other fancy, some fried chicken.
Speaker C:Throw that piece of chicken right on the slice of bread and we good.
Speaker B:And actually, and during a road trip, if you, if it was a little cold, it's just.
Speaker B:She had it in, in the cooler.
Speaker B:You put it in the back window or you put it on the dashboard.
Speaker B:Heat it right up, baby.
Speaker B:Heat it right up.
Speaker C:Absolutely.
Speaker A:Put it in that.
Speaker A:It'd be in the Reynolds wrap.
Speaker B:Oh, my goodness.
Speaker A:In a bag.
Speaker A:In a plastic bag, man, stop playing.
Speaker C:Like I told you, man, when we used to go to like any amusement park, like when I was younger, all I wanted.
Speaker C:All I wanted was to get one of them big ass turkey legs.
Speaker A:I saw the white people.
Speaker B:Yeah, we talked about this like four years ago.
Speaker C:I get one bigger ass turkey leg.
Speaker C:But now that I'm older, I realize how it was to go back to the car in the parking lot and get some of that fried chicken and.
Speaker B:That slice of bread, man.
Speaker B:See, it ain't set up like that no more because you got to walk three miles to get back to your car.
Speaker C:Hell, yeah.
Speaker C:But you know, it was still the same in bush cars.
Speaker C:But I mean, we did it.
Speaker B:Yeah, true.
Speaker C:Like, I mean, we ain't about to pay these prices for this.
Speaker C:When I can just go back and get that nice fried chicken and that slice of bread.
Speaker A:That turkey leg looks real good.
Speaker A:T, see how much it cost.
Speaker A:And that look like it's going to be look, looking Real good right there.
Speaker B:I ain't going to.
Speaker C:Frank.
Speaker C:The first time I actually bought one of them turkey legs, I was so disappointed because I'm like, man, this is.
Speaker C:This is the I've been waiting for.
Speaker C:I mean, it was good, but I'm just like, man, it just.
Speaker C:It didn't hit the way I thought it did because them white people used to make it look so good.
Speaker C:And then I realized they not.
Speaker C:They not the best judge of flavor.
Speaker B:Well, there's two things going on.
Speaker B:The first thing is, wasn't it gratifying to know you had enough money to do so?
Speaker C:Bro, that's.
Speaker C:That's all it was.
Speaker C:It was a status update, baby.
Speaker C:Was like, hey, baby, give me that.
Speaker C:Give me that.
Speaker C:Don't worry about it.
Speaker B:And then.
Speaker B:And then when white folks is making it, Making it.
Speaker B:Making it look like it tasted really good when we were kids, it was.
Speaker B:Was actually good.
Speaker B:I. I was.
Speaker B:See, it's not that way.
Speaker C:Not even eating it for real.
Speaker C:Just waving it around like you don't know what you got right now.
Speaker C:You got some gold in your hand.
Speaker A:Damn.
Speaker A:Damn leg bigger than the kid, man.
Speaker B:Man, that smoke.
Speaker B:Yeah, buddy.
Speaker B:It's not as good as it was.
Speaker C:Before, but, you know, but I make it myself now.
Speaker C:I make it myself and mine be hitting.
Speaker B:See, look at that.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:A turkey leg.
Speaker A:So long.
Speaker A:Might have to.
Speaker A:Look at that.
Speaker C:Got smoking, baby.
Speaker C:Six hours.
Speaker C:I know that sounds crazy, but.
Speaker C:No, it's not six hours, baby.
Speaker A:I mean, perfect.
Speaker A:You know, Ninja foodie.
Speaker A:Two and a half.
Speaker A:I'm good.
Speaker B:Awesome.
Speaker A:Appreciate you, Moby.
Speaker A:I mean, wow, man.
Speaker A:Might as well just figure, finish off this.
Speaker A:This cooking thing like we on a cooking roll.
Speaker A:I'm not gonna be the one to make.
Speaker A:Mess that up.
Speaker A:So, of course, last week, ag.
Speaker A:Pseudo challenged me.
Speaker A:Hey, make some food yourself.
Speaker A:Word.
Speaker A:So I made.
Speaker A:I made the.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:The spring rolls.
Speaker A:Awesome.
Speaker A:Good, good.
Speaker A:You know, got a couple left.
Speaker A:I'm taking them to lunch tomorrow.
Speaker A:You know, got the peanut sauce money.
Speaker A:You know, I would say the most interesting thing about them is following.
Speaker A:Because when you follow the instructions, you know, at least the instructions that were on the package of stuff I had, it's like, yeah, 10 to 15 seconds in the water.
Speaker A:Word.
Speaker A:First one I did, you know.
Speaker A:Oh, crap.
Speaker A:I left it here too long.
Speaker A:The most perfect one I did all damn night.
Speaker A:The rest of them just went to.
Speaker A:Hey, it worked.
Speaker A:But it didn't look as pretty as your first.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:So, of course, you know, wrapping it up.
Speaker A:You know, I don't use basil, so that's new, you know, So I. I got to play some I never really used for, so that's awesome.
Speaker A:Today, once again, I. I put the.
Speaker A:I got a whole chicken.
Speaker A:Put it in my.
Speaker A:My ninja crispy.
Speaker A:I mean, the juice that just coming out this ch.
Speaker A:Chicken, like, bro, like, frying, man.
Speaker A:Like, don't get it twisted.
Speaker A:I love fried chicken because I'm black and I'm fat, but I.
Speaker A:But, man, yo, it's nothing.
Speaker A:But it is nothing to pull out chicken.
Speaker A:And as you.
Speaker A:You know, I'm ripping it apart, you know, because I want the legs and the wings to eat.
Speaker A:And then you just go through it, man.
Speaker A:The juices just falling out, man.
Speaker A:It's sexy, man.
Speaker A:So sexy.
Speaker A:Like, all I know is I ain't gonna worry about when I find a woman, because if you can't cook, I got you.
Speaker A:But I need you to be alert to do something like water or something.
Speaker A:You can't just be letting me cook all the goddamn time.
Speaker A:We ain't about that life.
Speaker A:But, yo, man, I mean, yo, man, put the lemon pepper.
Speaker A:Put all on it.
Speaker A:Lemon pepper.
Speaker A:Boom, boom, boom.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Shout out to lemon pepper, baby.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I'm black.
Speaker A:I love me some lemon pepper, man.
Speaker A:I put it all on the inside, too, after I took the giblets and out.
Speaker B:And that helps you keep your black card because you like lemon pepper.
Speaker A:I don't give a.
Speaker A:About my black card.
Speaker A:I just love to eat, you know, about.
Speaker C:Say, I really don't like lemon pepper.
Speaker A:I'm not a lemon pepper fan.
Speaker A:I mean.
Speaker A:Hey, hey, bro.
Speaker A:Hey, bro, what I'm not gonna sit here and do is, like, judge people for, like, what they eat.
Speaker A:Cause you like that Monterey Jack.
Speaker A:Not today.
Speaker A:Not in my house.
Speaker B:Well, the way you said it is a judgment in and of itself.
Speaker A:What?
Speaker A:Which part?
Speaker B:What you just said.
Speaker A:Say what you said.
Speaker A:Yeah, I mean, hey, man, look, everybody like what they like, man.
Speaker C:Oh, my goodness.
Speaker A:Look, man, I can sit here, no.
Speaker C:Judgment ag, but that shit's nasty.
Speaker A:But I'm not going to your house and be like, yo, man, I need you to lay off that.
Speaker A:This is my house.
Speaker A:You either gonna eat it or not.
Speaker A:And then I have to make a decision, and if I don't eat it, that sounds like a whole bunch of my problem.
Speaker C:No judgment.
Speaker C:It's a judgment freeze on.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker A:But damn, hey, I'm fine.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:So I was once again yelling, man, I love some chicken, bro.
Speaker A:I. I love some chicken.
Speaker A:I love it fried.
Speaker A:I love it baked.
Speaker A:Is okay.
Speaker A:But the.
Speaker A:The something about the air fry, man.
Speaker A:If you do it right and you don't overdo it.
Speaker A:AKA people don't know how to cook.
Speaker A:You know, make sure you put a.
Speaker A:You can't put like a little bit of seasoning on this.
Speaker A:Like, you gotta.
Speaker A:You gotta caress it.
Speaker A:The oil in it.
Speaker A:The olive oil in it with the seasoning.
Speaker C:Yeah, buddy, caress it.
Speaker A:Hey, man.
Speaker A:Because every piece you gotta take, man,.
Speaker C:Having food soft porn up here, you gotta.
Speaker C:You gotta gently caress it.
Speaker B:Look, man, I just.
Speaker C:Am I wrong?
Speaker B:Ag, you're not wrong, though.
Speaker B:I'm just respecting that.
Speaker B:This is Reuben's part of the show.
Speaker B:I'm not gonna say nothing, but he is being very descript.
Speaker B:I will say that.
Speaker A:I'm just saying, like, hey, man, look, here's the thing.
Speaker A:Because when it's all said and done, a lot of people show their love by their food, right?
Speaker A:And especially if you cook for other people.
Speaker A:So, yeah, I mean, like, some people say, I love you.
Speaker A:Some people, you know, say, you hear some, I just bought you a purse.
Speaker A:Some people be like, babe, you gotta eat this.
Speaker B:This.
Speaker A:I put my foot in this.
Speaker A:And when they say, oh, this food is great, bro.
Speaker A:That's what it is, man.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:And plus, let's be real.
Speaker A:Why are you gonna make some food that.
Speaker A:That nobody else wants to eat?
Speaker A:Like, to me, that's just crazy.
Speaker A:You should want everybody to eat your food if it's good.
Speaker C:I mean, I'll be honest.
Speaker C:In my house, sometimes I intentionally make things that don't nobody else want so I can.
Speaker C:So I know it's going to be here.
Speaker B:I don't know if you just said.
Speaker B:I don't know if you should have said that out loud, sir.
Speaker C:I mean, it ain't going to stop it.
Speaker C:I mean, they still ain't going to want it.
Speaker A:Nah, man, you just.
Speaker B:But they might decide to be super petty and eat it anyway, right?
Speaker C:You're right.
Speaker C:No, but the only person that's guilty of that is Cadence.
Speaker C:Is she gone for a couple weeks.
Speaker C:So, like, the fridge is safe right now?
Speaker C:Yeah, man, I'm living my best fridge life right now.
Speaker A:If it's protein, lace and car free, then people in his house other than KJ ain't eating it.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker A:But nah, man, like, once again, I probably should said this before.
Speaker A:If you listen to this and you can't cook, go find some way to teach you how to cook, man.
Speaker A:Because, like, yo, sometimes you just gotta be able to fend for yourself.
Speaker A:Because one day, you know, like, these kids out here, man, nobody takes food to work.
Speaker A:They doordash that shit's expensive.
Speaker A:If I'm gonna pay an extra $8 for somebody to bring it to me, you know, I'm gonna do, I'm gonna make that at home and bring it with and bring it with me with me.
Speaker A:Like that shit's crazy.
Speaker A:It is cheaper to get in your car, go drive somewhere and come back with your food, then have it door dashed or whatever, whatever group you got bringing you food.
Speaker A:Nah man, that's just expensive.
Speaker A:And then I hear, well, you know, I, I don't pay, I don't pay anything for the delivery.
Speaker A:Bitch.
Speaker A:That, that seven dollar Big Mac meal is $12 dollars on DoorDash, man.
Speaker A:What do you think you paying for?
Speaker A:Like, come on, talk to me.
Speaker A:So learn how to cook.
Speaker A:We got three men up here who can cook, you know, and yo sorry ass can't learn how to cook.
Speaker A:That's a you problem and you need to fix that.
Speaker C:Yep, Judgment free, baby.
Speaker A:Damn right.
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